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Become Adobe ColdFusion 8 Certified

March 21, 2008 4:32 PM

I've received several emails asking "when is ColdFusion 8 certification going to be ready?" so I wanted to ge the word out that its been live. You can sign up for the program here: http://partners.adobe.com/public/ace/main.html.

CF8 ACE Program Description: http://partners.adobe.com/public/en/ace/ACE_Exam_Guide_ColdFusion8.pdf

More ACE info: http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/ace.html

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Kristen,

This page alludes to the listing of certified developers.
http://www.adobe.com/support/training/certified_pr...

The list is AWOL. Apparently since Adobe has had the reigns, they have not published a listing of certified developers.

The list is helpful to validate claims of certification. Also, it is a good way for organizations to find capable developers...

Could you elaborate on why the list no longer exists? Clearly one of the benefits of being certified is public recognition.

DW

Posted By Dan Wilson | 3/21/08 7:51 PM

Dan, I realize you'll want Kristen's (or Adobe's) official answer, but I'll share what I've heard over the years: Adobe's policies for sharing personal info are just much more stringent, and the reason they don't share the info is that they don't have permission from all the past certified folks who would have been listed.

One may ask: so why not get it now? They certainly could, but their solution to the first challenge (verifying that someone is indeed certified) is that anyone who is certified can arrange to have proof of their cert sent by Adobe to whoever they'd like (it's an option in the page where one can track their certifications: which you can log into at http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/communi..., where once logged in there's an option called "publish credentials").

Of course, that doesn't help with the 2nd challenge (providing a listing of who all is certified for potential employers), and one may argue that at least Adobe could in the future start asking certified folks if they'd like to be listed that way. And of course this isn't just a CF thing but would need to be implemented across all certs. I'd guess that the level of requests for this just hasn't justified the effort.

But that's just reflecting what I've heard. Perhaps there's a new or better answer. Hope that helps in the meantime.

Posted By Charlie Arehart | 3/22/08 2:11 PM

Dan and I had been emailing offline about this with the people who'd know the answers. I had to inquire this with folks who run the certification program. Jim Mendes (jmendes@adbobe.com) heads up the cert programs at Adobe. You are correct Charlie, the certification team would need approval from ACEs to post thier names. I put the request in with the cert team to do this, mentioning that CF community would love to have this option. Hopefully this will prove less challenging and the cert team can make it happen.

Posted By Kristen Schofield | 3/24/08 1:37 PM

	I can't say I fully understand the need to contact ACEs for permission, since a public listing was listed as a benefit and has been since at least CF 4.5 (my first certification). An opt-out seems more appropriate in this case. DW
	Posted By Dan Wilson \| 3/24/08 1:40 PM

	Dan - that's a good idea and I passed it along. I am definitely in support of this and pushed the request forward. What's your take on what info should be listed on ACEs?
	Posted By Kristen Schofield \| 3/24/08 2:13 PM

I'd say Full Name, City where the test was taken, Date when the test was taken, at minimum.
In my opinion, this information set isn't too intrusive, meets the past offerings by MACR and
would serve to give the developer credit and provide independent verification of ACE credentials.

Also, I bet more people would blog about it and generate higher visibility for the Certification Program.

Thanks for looking into this. I know you have plenty of stuff to do.. (like replacing cfscript with ActionScript Syntax for ColdFusion CF9, wink wink)...

DW

Posted By Dan Wilson | 3/25/08 11:56 AM

	Would you (read ACE developers ) want your email addresses displayed on adbe.com if I can get you listed?
	Posted By Kristen Schofield \| 4/2/08 11:58 AM

	Hi Kirsten, Will there be any new release like "CF 8 certification study guide" from Adobe?... Thanks, David R
	Posted By Dav R \| 4/7/08 4:08 AM

	Hi Kristen, Any comments on this: http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2008/6/3/O... as us CF developers are trying to figure out if the CF8 exam is worth taking.
	Posted By Shama \| 6/4/08 12:08 AM

Just as an fyi to those that subscribe to this thread and the mention that Forta won't be producing his cert study guide for CF8, CF8 Exam Buster has been released at http://centrasoft.com. The product has 384 questions completely overhauled and designed/targeted/focused directly at what the Adobe ColdFusion 8 certification exam is looking for. The real exam is far from perfect, but at least you need not go it alone.

Posted By Brian Simmons | 8/17/08 2:01 PM

	Kristen, Is there still a differentiation between simply passing with > 66% and receiving "advanced" certification by hitting a certain percentage (80% or 85%... I don't recall which) as was done with previous tests? I don't see anything about that in regards the the CF8 test, and don't want to make bold claims of being "advanced" if I can't back it up on paper! :)
	Posted By Dave Shuck \| 8/20/08 7:43 PM

	Hey Dave, Adobe has removed the Advanced status certification in the CF8 exam, this is straight from Jim Mendes (certification program manager). I'm not sure why they removed the Advanced distinction, but they did. hth, Brian
	Posted By Brian Simmons \| 8/20/08 9:52 PM

I eventually gathered that from a few sources, but I appreciate the response. The unfortunate result of that decision is that it makes the certification even less meaningful now for more advanced developers, considering the fact that pretty much anyone could walk in and spit out a 66% without any preparation whatsoever. Has anyone from Adobe offered a public reason for that decision? Thanks...
~Dave

Posted By Dave Shuck | 8/22/08 4:20 PM

I agree with Dave. The reason why I studied so hard and put in all the extra effort in my CF7 exam is so I would make the certified advanced level. I ended up getting a 95% and that is something I am proud of. I display that fact on my blog because, to me, having the Certified Advanced status is meaningful.

On the other hand, knowing that all ranges of scores now are first equal, is a demotivator and should I choose to take the CF8 certification, I'll definitely not put in the extra effort.

DW

Posted By Dan Wilson | 8/22/08 5:06 PM

Hi all,

I looked into this internally at Adobe (I wasn't aware the advanced level was no longer offered). I discovered that Adobe doesn't offer advanced levels of certification for any of its product certs, which is why for CF8's (the first major CF release under Adobe) cert program was sans advanced. However, after speaking with Jim Mendes, he understands this is important to the CF community so for CF, he will turn advanced back on (the advanced status will be based entirely on how Macromedia advanced certification was calculated). It will take about a week to deal with internal systems. Thanks Jim, for making this exception for CF!

Kristen

Posted By Kristen Schofield | 8/26/08 4:38 PM

	Kristen, thank you for following up and for listening to the community! :)
	Posted By Dave Shuck \| 8/26/08 4:43 PM

That is great news to hear, Kristen. Thanks for looking into and sharing it.

I'm curious about a couple of things. I was looking for a page to remind me of what the "advanced" level was (80%), and I found it at this page:

http://www.adobe.com/support/training/certified_pr...

But it's still littered with ColdFusion MX labelling. Now, it does offer a direct link back to the main cert page (http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/index.h...), though I don't find a link from the main page to it. Still, since some can obviously find it, it seems it ought to be updated.

More curious, the page that lists what products have certifications (http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/ace_cer...) also still lists only "Macromedia ColdFusion® MX 7" under "Product exams available for Adobe Certified Professional (ACP)". Besides updating that for CF8, does the fact that CF8 is now an Adobe product mean tha tperhaps it will move out of the ACP designation to the ACE one?

Speaking of ACE vs ACP, that main cert page above (http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/index.h...) doesn't use that distinction, offering instead ACE vs ACA, which seems quite different.

Not a big deal on these things. More just curious if you'd noticed them, for the sake of consistency both of the CF product name and where CFers fit in the changes to the Adobe Certified programs. I figured someday someone would press that point. :-)

PS, FWIW, the exam prep page (http://partners.adobe.com/public/ace/main.html) does properly mention CF8.

Posted By Charlie Arehart | 8/26/08 4:57 PM

	Hi, Today, I got certified on coldfusion for 84%. Do I fall in Advance category? I want to know it at any cost. Regards, -Nouman Naveed
	Posted By mohammed nouman naveed \| 8/30/08 8:03 AM

How about at the cost of reading the comment that preceded yours? :-) I offered a link that says that the Advanced level was 80%. Assuming that the program in reinitiated and the level remains the same (I think it should be higher, myself), then congrats. You'll have passed as advanced.

Or are you looking for something more definitive? Kristin had said it would take a week, this past Tuesday, so perhaps we'll know more next week.

Posted By Charlie Arehart | 8/30/08 10:57 PM

	Charlie, I noticed that the certification says 80% for advanced ... however ... April 2007 when I got my MX 7 certification the score was 85 or better ... I know becasue I got an 84% on one changed answer. My certification also looked very different ... what is the correct number and can I get a n Advanced if the number really is 80%?
	Posted By Gary \| 9/19/08 2:03 PM

Made my ACE Exam yesterday (02/10/2009).
I wanted to check the certification status at http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/communi... as a first time user.
The form asks for "Candidate ID, Registration Number and Site Number".
My Score Report has no Candidate ID but neither Candidate nor Registry ID do work.
Would be great if Adobe (or Integral?) can not only fix the form but also the login problem ;-)

Posted By Michael | 2/11/09 10:53 AM

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